Transfusions as a potential blood clotting risk for women

We give a lot of attention to some forms of blood supply risk when we consent to a transfusion, but a newly-released study contains an additional factor we may want to discuss with our surgeons when we are talking about having a transfusion either before or after we have a hysterectomy.

In this study, researchers found that

Transfusion was associated with an increase in the odds of developing VTE in women (odds ratio, 1.8; 95% confidence interval, 1.2-2.6) but not in men (odds ratio, 0.9; 95% confidence interval, 0.5-1.9). In the absence of transfusion, female compared with male sex was not associated with an increased risk of VTE (odds ratio, 1.2; 95% confidence interval, 0.8-1.7).

What does this mean for us? We already know that a hyst (or any abdominal surgery) raises our risk of developing a postop blood clot, and that's why our doctors usually prescribe elastic stockings and/or pneumatic hose as well as anticoagulant therapy as a regular part of our immediate postop care.

But it could be that women who have a transfusion before surgery, perhaps to correct anemia from excessive bleeding, as well as those who require transfusion to compensate for blood lost during the operation, may be incurring an extra risk factor. And since blood clots are a very serious health threat as well as a reason why future HRT use may be forbidden, this is something to take into account when making the decision to permit a transfusion.

It's not necessarily a reason to turn one down, of course: sometimes blood loss can be life-threatening and there may be few other options for dealing with the situation. If a doctor knows that this elevated risk exists, there may well be specific measures to do with both detection and prevention that can be put in place that help reduce this added risk exposure. It's not a simple or straightforward decision, so it needs to result from a discussion with your own surgeon or doctor. But this new information is definitely something to be sure they've heard of and are taking into account in how they manage your overall treatment.

If you want to share the content of this study, it is:

Association Between Venous Thromboembolism and Perioperative Allogeneic Transfusion

Kent R. Nilsson, MD, MA; Sean M. Berenholtz, MD, MHS; Elizabeth Garrett-Mayer, PhD; Todd Dorman, MD; Michael J. Klag, MD, MPH; Peter J. Pronovost, MD, PhD

Arch Surg. 2007;142:126-132.

FDA warning on naproxen, ibuprofen, other NSAIDs

In case you haven't seen it elsewhere, the US Food and Drug Administration has just issued a warning that naproxen may be implicated in the same sort of heart problems as have just caused them to pull Vioxx and Celebrex. Since many women have used this for postop pain control after a hyst, thanks to its 12-hour duration of action, it's something that we should all be aware of. That doesn't mean you can't use it, but you should definitely discuss the matter with your doctor before doing so. I don't know if this will ultimately include other non-steroidal anti-inflammatories or even aspirin, so keep an eye on the news. This link may not be good for long, but you can read more on the story here.

Update

The above link, originally published in 12/04, is indeed dead now. But the FDA has finally and officially strengthened the warnings on naproxen, ibuprofen and a whole host of other non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). You can read the story in greater detail here, with all of the new precautions.

The main import for us is the addition of the cardiovascular risk warning, especially that of heightened clot risk. Since our surgery makes us more susceptible to clots (any abdominal surgery does; it's not specific to a hyst) and initiation of hrt can also raise our clot risk, these things all coming together do pose an interesting quandary in pain management and our ability to discontinue narcotics (which contribute to the dreaded postop constipation) as soon as possible. There are no firm answers here, but certainly a need to discuss this with your surgeon preoperatively, when you are still (relatively) lucid—not when you are at home clutching your generic discharge instruction sheet that was actually composed four years ago and never updated, and having second thoughts about what was really said in the uproar of checking out of the hospital.

Another update

As of 9/06, the latest thinking seems to be that naproxen may provide a lesser risk than some of the more high-powered NSAIDs. Still, because this is an issue that is still in flux and so many individual risk factors may come into play, it looks like the best policy remains "ask first."

Pre-op decisions: Keeping your cervix, revisited

The decision to keep one's cervix may have just gotten a little simpler for some women...or their daughters, at least. As you may have noted in our previous discussion of this topic, a certain number of women opt to have their cervix removed not because of specific cervical pathology but because they want to be protected from the risk of developing cervical cancer in the future. For these women, news released this week about a new vaccine that offers protection from the most common causes of cervical cancer may allow them to make that decision differently.

I'm not sure yet how and when this is going to play out. The vaccine hasn't been approved yet, but given the large test sample and the overwhelmingly positive results, I'm having a hard time believing the US FDA is going to drag their feet in approving this.

The manufacturer notes that this vaccine "should" be given before a young woman becomes sexually active to "ensure" protection. This doesn't address its use in women who are already sexually active but perhaps are not yet infected and who could conceivably benefit from that protection. As with so many things to do with a hyst, this will need to be a personalized decision: weighing the risks of having been infected against the inpact cervical removal might have on one's sexual response. But as time goes by and more of the women who are faced with the need for a hyst have been protected by this vaccine, that decision to ditch a cervix for prophylactic reasons may become less urgent for many. And, all things considered, that's good news.

Pre-op decisions: we'll just take out those ovaries so you won't have to worry about cancer

If you are planning your hysterectomy, or even just investigating what it would mean for you, and your doctor offers you this "recommendation," you may want to ask him to step back and explain himself in a lot more detail.

It used to be the practice that when women were facing a hyst, a surgeon would suggest that because her ovaries "aren't needed" any more, she should have them removed now so as to remove the risk of later getting ovarian cancer. In many cases, this would include the suggestion that "most" women who retain ovaries only end up needing another surgery later to remove them anyway.

Today we know that this kind of a sales pitch is not only medically inaccurate but is in fact a strategy that holds greater odds of shortening a woman's life than the alternative. And, slowly, doctors who keep up with the news in this field are revising their recommendations to a more accurate representation of the various risks.

Much of this turnaround can be credited to this study, published in the May, 2009 issue of the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology: "Ovarian Conservation at the Time of Hysterectomy and Long-Term Health Outcomes in the Nurses’ Health Study." For something that may be a little less intimidating to read, you might try this article at webmd: "Hysterectomy: Spare Ovaries, Boost Health?." Yet another good resource is the anonymous but probably related to the study website OvaryResearch, which focuses on the study and discussion it's stimulated as well as an earlier version of it that appeared in 2005.

Okay, enough with the citations: what's this about?

The study, which involved a very large pool of women (that's good, because it means the results are more likely to really reflect us all), found that rather than lowering deaths from cancer, prophylactic oophorectomy (that's the fancy way of saying taking out ovaries for the sake of prevention) in fact had a higher risk of death from all causes but mostly heart disease and lung cancer. That's right: removing our healthy ovaries at any age does not lengthen our lives or improve our health.

Further, although breast and ovarian cancer rates were lower in women who had their ovaries removed, the risk of death from all types of cancer was higher in these women. So, yes, the very thing we feared and chose this option in hopes of preventing is actually more likely to happen to us than if we'd left well enough alone.

And the rates of death are highest for women who never supplemented their hormones after the surgery. All those women who valiently toughed out menopausal symptoms because they thought it was the right and "natural" thing to do were in fact working with their doctors to shorten their own lives.

Tragic, right? And we're talking a big tragedy here: about 300,000 women a year choose to have this surgery under the impression that it will help them live longer, healthier lives. According to the main study author, that's "50% of women who have a hysterectomy between ages 40-44...and 78% of women between ages 45-64," even though it's well demonstrated that post-menopausal ovaries continue to contribute to our hormonal support, a support that's lost when we take those ovaries out.

But wait! What about women at real risk for cancer?

Yes, of course there are women for whom the risks boil down to high expectation of death by breast or ovarian cancer vs later death by these risks of lost hormones. That's a special situation and no one is suggesting that preventative removal of ovaries might not be the right choice for them.

But it needs to be an informed choice. That means not just making the assumption that because there's "a lot of cancer" in one's family that we are, personally, at risk for these specific cancers. It requires genetic testing and evaluation by an oncological specialist, not an assurance of a gyn surgeon who heard the word "cancer" and got spooked into a slash-and-burn mentality.

Can't I just take something to make up for that risk?

For many of us, the idea of cancer is so terrifying that it shorts out our brains. Especially if we're younger women and few of our peers have died of things we attribute to aging, we may not feel that the risk of heart attack or stroke is all that vivid or personal.

One of the objections to the recommendations of this study, that more women keep healthy ovaries, is that this risk can be treated medically with statins, drugs that lower cholesterol and lipids that are believed to be a major cause of heart disease, and bisphosphonates, drugs that preserve bone density. As the study author replies, however, these drugs have notorious dropout rates, just as HRTs do. Taking out a healthy body part and replacing it with drugs that must be taken for the rest of our lives and may have significant side effects of their own: if we look at it that way, how much sense does that make?

And then there are the women who want to do it "all naturally." What do they do? Exercise and healthy eating are important lifestyle strategies for minimizing cardiovascular and osteoporosis risks, but alone they probably aren't enough for most women, not to mention that they too are something that sounds better in concept than they are actually adhered to for every remaining day of our lives. Menopausal nutraceuticals, the raw plant estrogenic compounds that are sold to reduce hot flashes in natural menopause, are relatively ineffective in coping with the level of symptoms seen with the larger drop in hormone levels due to ovarian removal. And they entirely fail to address many of the more serious effects of hormone deficiency...such as the ones that lead to the risks cited in the study. In fact, this is not a natural situation and there is no natural solution that makes up for it.

But my ovaries are diseased: what should I do?

No one is suggesting that women should not treat existing ovarian disease with surgery. But this study does suggest that we should balance our treatment options against the risks, and those risks are more sizable than our previous understanding led us to believe.

Some ovarian disorders don't require removing the whole ovary to treat, and these are poorly paid back by the increased risks.

But some disorders do require removal for definitive treatment. Sometimes, other diseases are best treated by removing our ovaries. In these cases, however, we still need to understand the costs of that treatment and we need to understand how to mitigate those costs, whether that's drugs or HRT or simply accepting that we have chosen that direction for our lives rather than the one that would have resulted from our ovarian disease.

We need to know that not having ovaries means more than not having ovarian disease.

You have to make up your own mind

This is a complex issue. Many things that can go wrong with our ovaries still don't require that we give up our ovaries. Nothing going wrong with our ovaries really doesn't seem to require their loss. The things at the other side of that equation, heart and lung disease chief among them, kill many, many more women every year.

Just as we don't necessarily believe the car salesman that the extras he's recommending will do anything more than provide him with higher profits, so we shouldn't necessarily believe the person we'll be paying to do our surgery that the extras he's recommending are more valuable to us than him. This is where second opinions are so important, getting an opinion from a doctor who doesn't profit from that advice. And where we're worried about cancer risks, we should talk with an oncologist to make sure we're evaluating our own risk accurately and not just spooked by the word itself.

This study did nothing to simplify our decision with respect to a hyst except for one thing: we simply shouldn't accept "as long as you're having a hyst" as a good reason to give up our ovaries. Because when you hear that phrase, you now know enough to hear the unspoken rest of it: "as long as you're having a hyst, why not let me give you a higher chance of an early death by heart disease or cancer?" And we simply don't need that.

[Note: This essay was revised in June 2009 to include the results of the May 2009 study.]

Pre-op: planning for the medications we'll be receiving

In the course of some discussions we've been having on the list, I've realized how difficult--and yet how important--it can be to make sure that our medication preferences, sensitivities, and allergies are taken into account in the planning process. While most of us know about pre-existing allergies and know that we need to tell our doctors, anesthesiolgists and caregivers about them, it's more of a grey area in the case of sensitivities or strong preferences. How can we anticipate what we might be given in order to tell our doctors what we need them to know when we have, for the most part, little idea of what we'll be getting? I thought that you might like to know the general outlines of what you can expect in terms of medications throughout your surgical experience. Mind you, these are just generalities, so you'll need to do the work of talking with your doctor and fleshing out the details.

Starting with the at-home pre-op phase, many women are told to use a specific laxative bowel prep, with various doctors preferring different combinations of agents. Some doctors do not order this, and it should not be done unless it's ordered. You may be able to negotiate the actual laxatives used if you have specific preferences.

In the in-hospital pre-op process, you will probably receive a sedative/amnesiac agent (Versed is one commonly used, but there are many others and it's a matter of physician/anesthesiologist preference) and this may be mixed with other drugs, such as atropine, that dry up your nasal/oral secretions and assist with anesthesia (generally those receiving a general get this). Once your IV is started, you may also be given an initial dose of an antibiotic.

One other thing that might pose a problem for some women in the pre-op surgical routine is exposure to a skin cleanser called Betadine. This is an iodine-based scrub that is typically used to prep before incisions. Not only is it used to scrub your belly if you're having an abdominal incision, but you may be asked to douche with it beforehand, in order to begin decreasing the number of bacteria in your vagina. This can be a harsh agent and there are a certain number of women who are simply allergic to it. If you've not encountered it before or not used it on delicate vaginal tissues, ask for a sample betadine scrub so you can do a test before using the douche. I know that I can have betadine on regular skin without any problem at all, but when I tried a little test scrub on my labia, the burning was horrific even though I washed it off immediately! I reported this to the prep nurse the next day when she tried to send me off to do the douche, and she agreed that the doctor would not want to do surgery if the prep left me blistered and burning. There are other cleansers they can use, so if you're in any doubt, ask your doc at your preop and ask for a sample to test out yourself at home before committing to placing it where it is not, ahem, easily removed.

In the OR you will receive a great many drugs, depending upon the anesthesia you choose. These are under the control, for the most part, of your anesthesiologist, and that is who you need to discuss this part with if you have any specific drug concerns. As a rule, general anesthesia today is much less stressful on the body than it was even a decade ago, so your mother-in-law's account of her reaction to surgery she had 40 years ago may not be entirely predictive of your experience. Spinal or epidural anesthesia also involves drugs given systemically as well as locally, so you will again have to review with your anesthesiologist exactly what his plan is.

In Recovery, you may receive an antinausea drug (it's possible to request preoperatively that you be medicated for nausea before you experience it, if you're worried about the possibility or previous experience leads you to believe you're prone to vomiting). You will receive pain medication IV (typically morphine or demerol) and perhaps, depending upon elapsed time, another dose of antibiotic. If your doctor is one who favors this approach, you may also be given IV Toradol, which is an anti-inflammatory of the aspirin-ibuprofen (NSAID) family. Given the recent questions raised about the Cox-2 family of drugs and heart disorders, if you have any cardiac disease, you should discuss the use of this entire family (Cox-2 and NSAID) with your cardiologist as well as your surgeon, both in terms of operative use and home use of oral anti-inflammatories.

Postop pain control tends to be IV at first, then gradually moving to IM (shots, usually in the big muscle of the butt) or perhaps straight to oral. Morphine and demerol remain the most common but there are other agents that may be used. Some doctors continue the additional Toradol so long as you have an IV. Women who retain a spinal may be also getting morphine via that mode. When the transition to orals is made, they typically are one of the codeine blends although some women go straight to oral anti-inflammatories.

Many doctors will also place you on anticoagulant shots starting in the OR and continuing for at least a day until you are up and around enough that the risk of clotting is lowered. These are tiny sticks into the fat pad of your belly, and may be the source of small bruises you'll see there. Because these shots are given early in our recovery when we're pretty bleary, many of us don't remember them at all and wonder about the tiny bruises. The drug is called heparin.

In the postop (in-hospital) period there may be several more doses of antibiotic and usually the introduction of stool softeners once you can take oral meds (once your bowels have begun making sounds signifying they are functioning). Additional vitamins or iron supplements may be ordered for those whose blood counts are low (but do not resume taking your own vitamins till you get the okay from your doc--if you double up on some of them because you're taking yours and getting some from the hospital, you can set yourself up for bleeding and other risks). If you are having problems with gas the best remedy is walking but some doctors will also order Gas-X or similar drugs to help ease the discomfort.

And those are all the usual things I can think of that might be a problem. Obviously if you take drugs for other problems, you'll be resuming those postoperatively and should be sure that you do get them if they are needed and that you get the doses you normally take unless you and your doctor have discussed making some temporary change. You may need to remind your doctor about pre-existing prescriptions, especially if they are prescribed by other doctors, so they don't forget to resume them in your postop orders. Don't assume that they are being omitted for some good reason unless you have specifically discussed doing so with your doctors--docs forget things that are outside their own routines for their surgeries, and it's up to us, ultimately, to guard our own interests.

It's a good idea for each of us to think through whether any of these drug families are a problem for us--if so, early discussion with our doctor and/or anesthesiologist will help alleviate the risk of negative reactions when you are least likely to want them: during or immediately after surgery. What if you've never had any of them? Our caregivers are alert for negative reactions, but we have a certain burden on us to report them as well. For example, if you are sensitive/allergic to morphine, you may experience annoying itching of your nose and eventually itching all over. So it's a good idea, if you start itching and have a morphine pump, to speak up early and often in asking to change to something else.

I know that I got one push of my morphine pump done by the nurse as I was getting into bed when I got to my room from Recovery, and I spent over 24 hours trying to rub my nose off my face. Luckily I didn't need the morphine again--Toradol was plenty of control for me even with a fairly sizable abdominal incision--and so it was not something I had to deal with. But this is someplace where having a friend or family member in the hospital can help us: in those first postop hours when we're too snowed to put things like this together or to advocate strongly for our needs, someone with us who can help us deal with these things can be very valuable.

My sister was the one who made the nose/morphine connection for me (I hadn't noticed I was doing it--yeah, that's how groggy), and so when I got up and the nurse went to hit the pump, she intervened and asked me if I felt I needed the morphine in the light of the reaction I might be having. I agreed that no, I felt as though I could try it without, and so I went staggering merrily off down the hall with the two of them following along shepherding my assorted catheter/IV/whatever (in retrospect I think that maybe the morphine made me more than a touch goofy, too, but at least I was up and moving). And by the next morning I was more alert and thoughtful and could take care of myself again, even though my concentration was as impaired as anyone's whose just had a general. So that is a little cautionary tale for those who are wondering what this actually works out to be like, if we have a mild sensitivity reaction.

To help you do some drug-related research, if you are unclear on exactly what drugs are related, what they include and what side effects they carry, these links might be useful:

• Rx list
• Herbal safety

The main takeaway point here is that it's up to us to judge how we're responding to what we're getting, not only in terms of whether we are getting, say, adequate pain relief from our meds, but whether they are suiting us in other ways as well. Remember that there are alternatives for all drugs, so gritting your teeth and putting up with something is really not necessary for anything other than the convenience of your caregivers. And that's not who it's about, is it?

Pre-op: Fear

It's a truism of hysterectomies that the waiting for the surgery is the worst part of the whole thing. And like any truism, there's a great deal of validity in that statement. For most of us, a hyst may be our first experience of major surgery. For others, we know it's a gamble for better health and so it's reasonable to be edgy. Frankly, anyone who isn't worried at the prospect of a hyst is more worrisome to me.

But for other women, the fear is deeper and both more specific and more disabling. I read comments like "I'm terrified of anesthesia. I'm sure I'll never wake up." Or "I'm really having second thoughts because I don't want to be turned into a menopausal demon." I've read about women who have jumped up off of the cart headed to the OR and turned around and gone home. I've read about women who have canceled and rescheduled their surgeries so many times they are finally "fired" by their surgeon. For some women, fear is immobilizing.

But a lot of the time, there are things we can do to deal with this level of fear...and need to. When we face surgery with the strong conviction that we are going to die or when we are terrorized by the image of a hot flash as the fast track to doom, we're setting ourselves up with stress and worry to just make the entire situation worse. It's been well proven that lowering stress contributes significantly to our health during surgery and our recovery.

Instead, we can take back control of a terrifying part of surgery. Whatever it is, we can't eliminate the uncertainty, but we can really whack away at the terror. And we need to.

Is this surgery the right thing for me?

Take for instance ambivalence about the surgery itself. It's normal to have some doubts, but our overwhelming sense before we consent to surgery needs to be that this is the last best hope for health for us after having exhausted all lesser approaches. We have to be sure that this is the right thing for us to do. That doesn't mean that our surgeon needs to think this or our relatives need to think this. We have to believe it strongly enough to embrace the surgery with hope, not helpless doom. Until we're there, we're not ready. If you feel as though this decision is being urged on you and you ought to go along with it, you're not ready. If you don't feel you've explored all the options, you're not ready.

How do you get more ready? See more doctors. There's a good reason why your insurance company willingly pays for second or even third pre-op opinions, and it works to your benefit. You may have to see several doctors and listen to several explanations before you hear one that clicks and suddenly makes things fall into focus. That doesn't mean you can't use your first doctor as your surgeon--it just means you needed to do more research. Different doctors bring different interpretations and different communication skills. It's only prudent when looking at an irreversible surgery that we seek a broad range of opinions. It makes it much more possible to develop that necessary sense that what we choose—and that we are choosing—when we have explored our options more thoroughly.

Anesthesia fears

It's common to have a deep fear of losing control when faced with the idea of anesthesia. That's reasonable and protective, so long as it's not disabling. But if you have a deep-seated belief that it's not going to work for you, then don't go there. Talk with your doctor and anesthesiologist about other options, like spinal anesthesia. With that method, you are numb and indifferent but not totally unconscious. Maybe this would let you feel less cut off from your life, make the whole experience more survivable. It's a viable option if it reduces your fears.

Fears about after the surgery

What comes after a hyst is such an unknown for most of us. I'm doing what I can by posting on this website to make the experience a little clearer, give women a few more practical details of what they may expect. I've posted before about pain, and how you can help control your fears about it by making plans beforehand.

But that same technique applies to other aspects of healing. If you are having your ovaries removed and sudden menopause is your fear, don't let your doctor brush off your worries with the classic "you'll just take this little pill and everything will be fine." You've heard stories from your relatives and co-workers; you have been reading; maybe you've already looked at my recommended hormone/hrt resource, the Survivor's Guide to Surgical Menopause and their mailing list--you're not sure it's going to be that simple. Well then, don't let your doctor brush you off. Ask for details of his plan: when will you begin hrt, what if you experience symptoms before then, how will you know if it's not working, when will you change things if there is a problem, what will you change to? Or, even better, let your doctor know what you want for hrt and when you want to start it and how you want it to work for you.

Work together with your doctor(s) on a plan that covers all your worries and lays plans out for any contingency you are bothered about. Maybe you'll need those plans and maybe you won't. But pre-op fears are eased when we regain a sense that even if we don't know exactly what will happen, we're prepared to deal with it. And for that reason alone, it's worth the time and effort because we'll have a happier, healthier surgical experience when we're not facing featureless doom. It's okay to be nervous, but if you're seriously disabled by fears, you're not ready until you've laid them aside.

Pre-op decision: surgical route

The vaginal vs abdominal route is endlessly debated. Going for the bottom line right away, the "right" answer is clearly: the one that gives your surgeon the absolute best field of vision/access for what you need done.

That said, it's widely believed that the vag route, because it skips that belly incision, has an easier recovery. In the very first few days, that may be the case, but it's been my observation that over the entire recovery period, there's not a whole lot of difference.

The key point to remember is that it is the internal healing that is the big job, and that is the same whichever surgical approach is used. In fact, I've noted time and again that it's the women who have a vag hyst who are more prone to overdoing in the early stages, just because they aren't looking at that incision and treating themselves as cautiously. Some difference does exist between a bikini and a vertical incision, since the latter extends further up into the belly and is more noticeable with muscular effort. But even so, the length of time incisional healing affects you is really brief compared to the interior healing. So try not to agonize over this one.

There have traditionally been three factors, roughly, that determine suitability for the vaginal procedure:

1. Is there room to get the uterus out through that route? Obviously, with very large fibroids and for many women who have never given birth, that answer would be "no."
2. How experienced is the doctor with that version of the procedure? A vaginal procedure is in fact much more complex. Experience counts in avoiding negative surgical outcomes and quality of final results.
3. Can the doctor see everything he needs to? The vaginal route obviously involves a more limited field of view. Those needing ovarian evaluation or considered cancer possibilities often require the better visibility of abdominal incisions.

I was told that since the doctor couldn't "see" everything that he was doing, in many cases, there was damage done to the other organs.

Exactly. The addition of a laparoscope helped this somewhat, as that technique became more common, but this is still a much more remote viewing that calls for considerably more expertise on the part of the doctor and relies much more on the soundness of the pre-op diagnosis (as opposed to visually checking everything out).

I have fibroids in and around the outside of my uterus. I don't want anything missed. Also I read that they are finding that a lot of nerve damage is being done to and around the vagina and sex is often affected greatly.

So many things are relative to your own particular anatomy, what exactly the pathology is for which you are having the procedure, and your own surgeon's practice level. But in general, yes, because of the awkward approach angle, there tends to be more manipulation of internal organs and nerves and such than with the abdominal approach. And because things are harder to see, there is a greater chance of missing things or causing damage with a vaginal approach. Additionally, women who have spent hours in the stirrups for surgery are more likely to experience back pain or back/leg nerve irritation in their immediate postop period.

In fact, the vaginal procedure, as a rule, takes longer (longer time under anesthesia) and requires more internal work (sutures, healing) than the abdominal. The more rapid initial bounce-back due to not having the abdominal incision is not always a service, since the internal healing that goes on is greater, even if less obvious. More women with vag than abdominal hysts end up going back for revisions when they have damaged this or that during the healing process by doing too much before they are ready and/or getting an incomplete heal. The famous 6-8 week recovery period is for the internal healing, not the superficial incisional healing—something that it is all too easy to overlook with the vaginal procedure.

I understand that in vaginal surgery, the cervix is taken out . I want to keep everything that I possibly can.

Yes, it must be, because of the way the surgery is done. Many abdominal hysts also remove the cervix, and by and large the problems that used to be associated with this, of later losing support for internal organs, are eased by more current techniques that emphasize reattaching the tendons to provide good abdominal floor support. The argument now focuses solely on whether or not you have a strong cervical stimulation component in your orgasms. Those who do will probably miss it; those who don't will probably get along just fine without it. Remember, of course, that with cervical retention you will continue to get a light period (and may need hrt to cycle you, if you have your ovaries removed); you will also continue to need regular pap testing for cervical cancer.

My own decision was for an abdominal, even though I was offered a vag (reluctantly). Because my pre-op diagnosis was unclear about the actual state of my ovaries, I wanted the doctor to be able to examine things thoroughly. He was relieved, since the vag route was only conditional, with an abdominal to follow if he found anything suspicious that needed further exploration. I did, however, bargain with him that he would start with a horizontal incision (the "bikini cut"), which I feel disrupts abdominal muscle fibers less and promotes faster recovery of abdominal tone. We agreed that he would start there and only extend to a vertical (making a "T" incision) if what he saw warranted further removal of affected organs. This was written into the operative permit, specifically.

As it turned out, I did not need the vertical extension as my ovaries were only rather suspicious and not yet fully malignant, and he was able to do a thorough examination of the entire abdominal cavity from the horizontal incision once he got that mammoth uterus out of the way. For me, the peace of mind in knowing that such a thorough exam had been done more than made up for the additional inconvenience of the incision.

And, truly, I didn't have a lot of recovery difficulty. I was walking within a couple hours of returning to my room, and within two weeks was walking a mile or more without problems. I switched to oral anti-inflammatories within 24 hours of surgery, never using either the IV morphine or other narcotics (I did get regular doses of IV Toradol, a potent anti-inflammatory, in the first 24 hours). Among other things, I credit this with not having had problems with gas or a first bowel movement (although I did hit heavy fluids, fiber, and a couple stool softeners to ease things along, in addition to the activity).

So for me, the decision was to do nothing to compromise either my surgeon's best possible technique or best possible examination, and in return for that I found the abdominal incision to be no dire cost. Everyone will have different experiences, but those are the things I found worthwhile to weigh in making the decision.

Pre-op decisions: Keep my cervix or not?

When considering a hysterectomy, there are several options that may be up to you when the decision is made just which parts of what are to be removed. Women who are having a vaginal hysterectomy don't get this choice: their cervix has to be removed in order to obtain access to the uterus through the vagina. But for women having an abdominal procedure, it is sometimes possible to leave the cervix, the muscular join between the uterus and vagina. If the cervix is not retained, then the top of the vagina is closed with a "cuff" or a special turned-over seam very like the French seaming on the inside of most jeans legs. Let's look at some of the concerns with the cervix decision.

Cervical cancer

There are several considerations related to cancer. If you have or are at high risk for cervical cancer, your surgeon will most likely advise that you have it removed. Removal of your cervix will greatly lower your risk of this particular cancer, although you will continue to need pap smears to monitor vaginal health. Sometimes women question whether they should have it removed just to eliminate the chance of cancer. Cervical cancer has some highly specific risk factors and otherwise fairly low risks for the rest of the population, so you need to do some research on cervical cancer to see if you feel you fall into that population. If you do not, it may not be anything to worry about. [update to this topic]

Mechanical concerns

Because the cervix is an integral part of the muscular support of the upper vagina and uterus, there used to be considerable feeling that removing the cervix made shifting that support more complicated and more prone to failure. This would, in turn, lead to a need for further (future) surgery to tack those organs back up. Most current surgeons use newer operative techniques for supporting these organs, and so this is less of a concern today than it was a decade ago. If you are talking with women about their experiences with this, be sure you know when they're talking about and how skilled/current their surgeon was. Assuming that you have normal tissue health generally, it is unlikely to be a problem for you if your surgeon is up to date and skilled.

Mini-periods

If you keep your cervix, you will probably continue to experience small "mini-periods" or episodes of light spotting. This is because there will be a little retained uterine tissue along the edges that may continue to cycle if you keep your ovaries or if your HRT fluctuates. It's just not possible to separate cervix from uterus with total accuracy—they are each a continuation of the other, in terms of tissue differentiation—and so while your surgeon will do his best, the division may not be 100% accurate. Some women find these mini-periods deeply troubling; others aren't the slightest bit bothered by them. Knowing that this may happen will go a long way towards letting you take them in stride.

Sex

And then there's sex. Some women feel that cervical stimulation is an important part of their sexual response and orgasm. For those women, loss of the cervix may alter the nature of their orgasmic sensations, although not necessarily their ability to experience them. Many women are also concerned that removal of their uterus will remove that sense of muscular contraction that accompanies orgasm. That is not the case: while your uterus is removed, other abdominal muscles still respond in that way and, again, it may be a little different, but it is not necessarily diminished or less satisfying. So for any woman, the question may come down to her own appraisal of how important her cervix is to her sexual satisfaction. For those who find cervical stimulation uncomfortable rather than pleasurable, there's certainly no loss at all in having it removed.

Another concern in removing your cervix is vaginal length. The top of the vagina, you'll recall from a couple paragraphs above, is stitched into a cervix-like gathered knot called a "cuff." This actually consumes very little tissue. A certain number of women when they first get the okay to resume intercourse, however, find that they feel as though they are very very short now. This is a function of healing, not a too-short vagina. It takes a long time—months to a year—for vaginal tissue to regain its proper elasticity around the incisions. Normal vaginal tissue is very elastic, and the area around the incision is going to be stiff and unyielding for some time. This gives you much more of a sensation of an abrupt "end" than you normally experience. This will pass with time, but doctors rarely warn women of this and it causes more needless misery than nearly anything else to do with a hyst. Unless you are having major reconstructive repairs of rectoceles or cystoceles (tears in the vaginal wall that let bladder or rectum protrude in), this is only going to be a temporary healing phase. If vaginal length is for some reason a particular concern for you, discuss this aspect of your surgery with your doctor in your pre-op appointments and plan together how best to deal with it.

Pap smears

And, finally, there's the need for pap smears. If you keep your cervix, you will continue to need regular pap smears on whatever schedule you've always used. But, if you have your cervix removed, you will still need regular pap smears, albeit possibly on a less frequent schedule. As with the mini-period, there's no clear line between cervix and vagina and there is a risk of retaining some cervical cells in with the new vaginal cuff. That means a small risk remains of developing cervical cancer in those cells. There is also, some doctors feel, enough of a chance of developing vaginal cancer that they advocate exams and testing to check for that as well. You might want to ask your doctor about your post-op testing needs in each scenario and how he evaluates your risk level as part of making your decision.

Those are the main concerns with keeping or having your cervix removed. We'll each weight them differently, so it's definitely worth thinking through how each factor affects your individual body rather than just relying on other women's opinions of how they were affected by cervical removal or not. This is one of the areas where the outcomes of our surgery are partially under our control, so it's worth some deep consideration and discussion with your surgeon or regular gynecologist.

And just in case you like visual aids or aren't entirely certain what we're talking about, here's a photo of a cervix, speculum view, and a drawing of a uterus, etc showing the cervix.